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Derek Rishmawy
I'm the Director of College and Young Adult ministries at Trinity United Presbyterian Church. (Think non-ordained college pastor). I'm the husband of a very pretty lady named McKenna. I got my B.A. in Philosophy at UCI and my M.A. in Theological Studies (Biblical Studies) at APU. I love Jesus and more importantly Jesus loves me. Throw in too many books, coffee, craft beer, loud music and a picture starts to emerge. Also, sometimes Christ and Pop Culture lets me say things on their site.
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Stuff I Say At Random
- @GraceForSinners I'm a pipe man myself. 8 hours ago
- "How Dare You Quote That Sexist, Slavery-Advocating, Elitist?" Oh, you mean Aristotle? #randomthoughts 8 hours ago
- Bourbon, Depeche Mode, and the Iliad. These are God's gifts after church meetings. 9 hours ago
- Diversity, not Jesus, saves says Presiding Bishop | Anglican Ink anglicanink.com/article/divers… This would be funny if it weren't depressing 9 hours ago
- RT @VchurchVinings: The dominance of "personal choice" and pathological church shopping is entirely consistent with the logic of revivalism… 11 hours ago
- The Reformed should know we’re not justified by being right, but by being righteous in Christ wp.me/p2DWnH-14u #self-criticism 12 hours ago
- Some Thoughts on Reformed Caricatures and Self-Criticism wp.me/p2DWnH-14u #humility #alwaysreforming 15 hours ago
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God is Father, eh?
“Well, I’m a Dad and I’d never allow anything bad to happen to my kids just to teach them something…” This kind of reasoning drives me up the wall. Analogy! Maybe God isn’t completely like me after all.
Great little post.
Ha! Absolutely. I know that being a dad one day will probably shift the way I think about God. Still, having been a son my whole life, I know that doesn’t always help me think about how I’m to be a son to the Father of lights.
As a Lutheran (funny how all my theology comments start that way…), I really think I need more explanation of this doctrine. On the one hand, it definitely makes sense: God is more than human language or thought can express, therefore analogy is necessary. On the other hand, I really, really, REALLY get scared when people say things like, “Well, the Bible says God gets angry, but because God is impassible, and has to be impassible in the way the Greeks thought, He doesn’t get passionate.” I sort of just want to leave it at “God is God. He is unchanging. He also gets angry. Deal with it.” I guess what I’m saying is sometimes analogy is useful to point out qualifiers that Scripture itself gives, but when we use analogy to bring the Bible in line with philosophy, that gives me pause. Kinda like calling Genesis 1-12 “saga” to bring it in line with current scientific thought.
Knowing you to be too good a theologian to commit the error described above, please explain to me how you’re not doing that. :p
Nathan, my dear Lutheran brother, as always you raise excellent questions. First off, you might enjoy this article on impassiblity I put out a little bit ago. http://derekzrishmawy.com/2012/09/25/the-beauty-of-the-impassible-god-or-is-god-an-emotional-teenager/
Also, you might enjoy the whole Horton article that I cite.
To try and answer your question, I think the key is the whole, “has to be impassible in the way the Greeks thought.” Analogy has to be scripturally-informed and shaped. As I point out, we don’t think of God’s fatherly love and just fill it with our culturally-shaped notions of fatherly love. We, in a sense, look to the way the term is used in the scriptures to re-shape our notions. I get a lot of my understanding for how analogy is to be properly employed from Kevin Vanhoozer and, obviously, Michael Horton who emphasize the scriptural shape of our analogies. I do think the direction is revelation–>theologico-philosophical reflection, rather than theologico-philosophical–>reflection. And, thing is, we have to engage at that level because sometimes the philosophers are asking good questions, (and the lay-people with them.) It’s about drawing out the metaphysics presupposed or implied, but nowhere cleanly laid out, by Scripture.
Again, I really think you’d enjoy Horton’s full article. I mean, as a plus, he takes on some of the Open theist’s more annoying claims.
The first time I heard him explain that my head exploded…LOL
Yeah, I don’t know when it clicked for me, but thankfully I had a little medieval philosophy in college that was a good prep for heavier systematics.
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